Post by JRCameron on Jun 5, 2012 4:05:53 GMT -5
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Batias: The front door is slowly opened. A slightly overweight man who appeared to be in his 60s steps out. The man is bald with a dirty grey beard. He is dressed in formal attire. Tie and everything.* May 8
Batias: Weeds grow in between the cracks on the sidewalk leading to a building. An auditorium. An aged but not ruined auditorium. It sits peacefully on the beautiful landscape of a once actively visited park. Words can be heard right outside the front door of the building, but not so much so that you can make it out. The front door is slowly opened. A slightly overweight man who appeared to be in his 60s steps out. The man is bald with a dirty grey beard. He is dressed in formal attire. Tie and everything.* May 8
Batias: So, basically. May 9
Batias: My plot. May 9
Batias: Or reason for the powers. May 9
Batias: Is based on whether both versions of Schrödinger's cat are in the box. May 9
Batias: or not. May 9
Batias: I want to use nano machines to form links with both versions of Schrödinger's cat. May 9
Batias: And then force the parallel cat to manifest itself. May 9
Batias: No. May 9
Batias: The basis of link power is based on whether both versions of Schrödinger's cat are in the box or not. May 10
Batias: The leading Quantum Theory specialist, Hudrick Belena, made stuff that's important to the plot. May 10
Batias: The end. May 10
Batias: The leading Quantum Theory specialist, Hudrick Belena, produced the nanomachine dubbed -insert really cool name here-. May 10
Batias: These machines form links at random due to the shy nature of the parallel particles. May 10
Batias: Only after a link is formed may the Nanomachines check to see which ones are parallel at which is not. May 10
Batias: The ones that are dissappear back into their world and the ones that aren't have their links broken. May 10
Batias: Quantum particles, electrons and atoms. May 12
Batias: Have one body but have multiple states. May 12
Batias: When we measure it in has one state. May 12
Batias: But when not under observation it can act like it has multiple bodies. May 12
Batias: Quantum particles, electrons and atoms are in multiple states when left unobserved. May 17
Batias: When observed the quantum particles, electrons and atoms are forced into one state. May 17
Batias: Hudrick Belena was leading quantum theory specialist. May 23
Batias: Hudrick Belena was leading quantum theory specialist of the past world. May 23
Batias: Neurophysiology. May 23
Batias: Nano mechanic. May 25
Batias: Programmer. May 25
JR joined the chat 0:45
JR: The cats, when being unobserved, will occupy the same space at the same time though, won't they? 0:46
Batias changed name to Garald 0:46
Garald: .-. 0:47
JR: I made a post about these two on the forum, just as an fyi. 0:47
Garald: So. 0:51
Garald: As you can see here, I'm trying to rewrite the origin. 0:51
Garald: I am trying to make sense out of people being able to make objects appear out of no where. 0:52
JR: Say there was a nanomachine that was designed to duplicate as a result of the explosion or radiation that kills the cat. If the cat lives, there is only one nanomachine. If the cat dies, there are two. However, since both exist at once, there are two at once in the chamber - If you open the chamber and the cat is alive, there is a second machine in the alternate dimension where the cat died. If you can then connect the machine back to its duplicate, you have your connection between the planes. 0:52
Garald: Right. 0:53
JR: Or, you know, if they were designed to be in constant contact with each other anyways, like the instant communication devices from Ender's Game. 0:53
Garald: I'm glad you were able to make sense of all my gibberish. Haha. 0:55
JR: There's a big difference between communication between dimensions and travel between dimensions. It took Ender's saga like four more /books/ to make that leap. Obviously, this place needs to be able to have it happen a bit quicker. 0:58
Garald: I'm not really thinking about communication between dimensions. I'm thinking about molecules and whatnot from a different dimensions into the open where you can see. 1:02
Garald: Unless that is the same thing... 1:02
JR: First you have to prove that the other dimension exists. 1:03
JR: The way to do that would be to take two inexoribly linked atoms that each move when the other does, making faster-than-light communication possible. Then you throw one of them into another dimension. If the first one doesn't annihilate from the stress of the bond, then you'll have proved that the other dimension exists. Then you can worry about bringing us there or there here... 1:05
JR: Though, if you've ever seen or read "The Mist" by Stephen King, you'll know that bringing other dimensions here can have some pretty damned disasterous results. 1:05
Garald: I'm not really that concerned about realism... 1:06
JR: Well, the point I'm trying to make is that to them, this is real. So to them, bringing other dimensions into our own willy-nilly would be like poking your warm fleshy finger into the shark's den and then trying to pull all the water in that shark's den back out. 1:09
Garald: Point taken. 1:12
JR: So you have a sort of mars rover mission. You attach the Ansible (the faster-than-light communication) to a computer that sends information back like the unmaned robots. You give them the ability to roll, fly, or whatever they have to do, and you control the thing from this side. You explore the other dimension, testing things like pressure, gasses in the atmosphere, radiation, light levels, flora, fauna, civilization... Only when you have a good chance of surviving and knowing that you're going to survive are you going to go there or bring stuff here. Better to go there and bring stuff back with you anyways. 1:16
Garald: Okay. After reading that 10 times, I have to agree. 1:25
JR: Okay, so let's take all of that as having happened, up until the point where they have to get from one to the other. How did the aboriginals of the Old World get to the New World? 1:27
Garald: I dunno. Prototype link powers? Hurr. 1:29
JR: How many got across? 1:33
Garald: Okay. So apparently I didn't think as hard about this as I thought I did. 1:34
JR: That's okay, as long as you continue to think about it. 1:35
Garald: So lets say a hundred people get across. What happens then? Should they get stuck there? Should they come back after a successful mission and say "LES ALL GO TO MARS"? 1:41
Garald: I don't know myself. 1:41
JR: A hundred people is definitely more than one military or scientific team. There were civilians, you know? Because of that, they had to have either a device for it, or a set of instructions on how to do it. If those instructions could be found and 'read'/translated by modern humans lead by this Hudrick Belena, then we'd be able to recreate them and poof ourselves across. 1:45
Garald: A handful of people, then. 1:47
JR: No, no. Instructions are good. 1:49
JR: Especially since if you've got hundreds, you can have their descendants (as they mate with humans and whatnot) spring back up, especially after the source of the link power comes back through from the other dimension and those people suddenly spring up with their powers. 1:49
JR: Those are a very good source of rp characters to use within your world, which should always be a goal since it's an rp world. 1:50
Garald: Ah, good. 1:54
Garald: Sorry, I'm not being good conversation. I've been up all night so I'm taking to long to respond. Heh. 1:55
JR: Go to sleep then. We'll continue talking later. 2:01
Batias: The front door is slowly opened. A slightly overweight man who appeared to be in his 60s steps out. The man is bald with a dirty grey beard. He is dressed in formal attire. Tie and everything.* May 8
Batias: Weeds grow in between the cracks on the sidewalk leading to a building. An auditorium. An aged but not ruined auditorium. It sits peacefully on the beautiful landscape of a once actively visited park. Words can be heard right outside the front door of the building, but not so much so that you can make it out. The front door is slowly opened. A slightly overweight man who appeared to be in his 60s steps out. The man is bald with a dirty grey beard. He is dressed in formal attire. Tie and everything.* May 8
Batias: So, basically. May 9
Batias: My plot. May 9
Batias: Or reason for the powers. May 9
Batias: Is based on whether both versions of Schrödinger's cat are in the box. May 9
Batias: or not. May 9
Batias: I want to use nano machines to form links with both versions of Schrödinger's cat. May 9
Batias: And then force the parallel cat to manifest itself. May 9
Batias: No. May 9
Batias: The basis of link power is based on whether both versions of Schrödinger's cat are in the box or not. May 10
Batias: The leading Quantum Theory specialist, Hudrick Belena, made stuff that's important to the plot. May 10
Batias: The end. May 10
Batias: The leading Quantum Theory specialist, Hudrick Belena, produced the nanomachine dubbed -insert really cool name here-. May 10
Batias: These machines form links at random due to the shy nature of the parallel particles. May 10
Batias: Only after a link is formed may the Nanomachines check to see which ones are parallel at which is not. May 10
Batias: The ones that are dissappear back into their world and the ones that aren't have their links broken. May 10
Batias: Quantum particles, electrons and atoms. May 12
Batias: Have one body but have multiple states. May 12
Batias: When we measure it in has one state. May 12
Batias: But when not under observation it can act like it has multiple bodies. May 12
Batias: Quantum particles, electrons and atoms are in multiple states when left unobserved. May 17
Batias: When observed the quantum particles, electrons and atoms are forced into one state. May 17
Batias: Hudrick Belena was leading quantum theory specialist. May 23
Batias: Hudrick Belena was leading quantum theory specialist of the past world. May 23
Batias: Neurophysiology. May 23
Batias: Nano mechanic. May 25
Batias: Programmer. May 25
JR joined the chat 0:45
JR: The cats, when being unobserved, will occupy the same space at the same time though, won't they? 0:46
Batias changed name to Garald 0:46
Garald: .-. 0:47
JR: I made a post about these two on the forum, just as an fyi. 0:47
Garald: So. 0:51
Garald: As you can see here, I'm trying to rewrite the origin. 0:51
Garald: I am trying to make sense out of people being able to make objects appear out of no where. 0:52
JR: Say there was a nanomachine that was designed to duplicate as a result of the explosion or radiation that kills the cat. If the cat lives, there is only one nanomachine. If the cat dies, there are two. However, since both exist at once, there are two at once in the chamber - If you open the chamber and the cat is alive, there is a second machine in the alternate dimension where the cat died. If you can then connect the machine back to its duplicate, you have your connection between the planes. 0:52
Garald: Right. 0:53
JR: Or, you know, if they were designed to be in constant contact with each other anyways, like the instant communication devices from Ender's Game. 0:53
Garald: I'm glad you were able to make sense of all my gibberish. Haha. 0:55
JR: There's a big difference between communication between dimensions and travel between dimensions. It took Ender's saga like four more /books/ to make that leap. Obviously, this place needs to be able to have it happen a bit quicker. 0:58
Garald: I'm not really thinking about communication between dimensions. I'm thinking about molecules and whatnot from a different dimensions into the open where you can see. 1:02
Garald: Unless that is the same thing... 1:02
JR: First you have to prove that the other dimension exists. 1:03
JR: The way to do that would be to take two inexoribly linked atoms that each move when the other does, making faster-than-light communication possible. Then you throw one of them into another dimension. If the first one doesn't annihilate from the stress of the bond, then you'll have proved that the other dimension exists. Then you can worry about bringing us there or there here... 1:05
JR: Though, if you've ever seen or read "The Mist" by Stephen King, you'll know that bringing other dimensions here can have some pretty damned disasterous results. 1:05
Garald: I'm not really that concerned about realism... 1:06
JR: Well, the point I'm trying to make is that to them, this is real. So to them, bringing other dimensions into our own willy-nilly would be like poking your warm fleshy finger into the shark's den and then trying to pull all the water in that shark's den back out. 1:09
Garald: Point taken. 1:12
JR: So you have a sort of mars rover mission. You attach the Ansible (the faster-than-light communication) to a computer that sends information back like the unmaned robots. You give them the ability to roll, fly, or whatever they have to do, and you control the thing from this side. You explore the other dimension, testing things like pressure, gasses in the atmosphere, radiation, light levels, flora, fauna, civilization... Only when you have a good chance of surviving and knowing that you're going to survive are you going to go there or bring stuff here. Better to go there and bring stuff back with you anyways. 1:16
Garald: Okay. After reading that 10 times, I have to agree. 1:25
JR: Okay, so let's take all of that as having happened, up until the point where they have to get from one to the other. How did the aboriginals of the Old World get to the New World? 1:27
Garald: I dunno. Prototype link powers? Hurr. 1:29
JR: How many got across? 1:33
Garald: Okay. So apparently I didn't think as hard about this as I thought I did. 1:34
JR: That's okay, as long as you continue to think about it. 1:35
Garald: So lets say a hundred people get across. What happens then? Should they get stuck there? Should they come back after a successful mission and say "LES ALL GO TO MARS"? 1:41
Garald: I don't know myself. 1:41
JR: A hundred people is definitely more than one military or scientific team. There were civilians, you know? Because of that, they had to have either a device for it, or a set of instructions on how to do it. If those instructions could be found and 'read'/translated by modern humans lead by this Hudrick Belena, then we'd be able to recreate them and poof ourselves across. 1:45
Garald: A handful of people, then. 1:47
JR: No, no. Instructions are good. 1:49
JR: Especially since if you've got hundreds, you can have their descendants (as they mate with humans and whatnot) spring back up, especially after the source of the link power comes back through from the other dimension and those people suddenly spring up with their powers. 1:49
JR: Those are a very good source of rp characters to use within your world, which should always be a goal since it's an rp world. 1:50
Garald: Ah, good. 1:54
Garald: Sorry, I'm not being good conversation. I've been up all night so I'm taking to long to respond. Heh. 1:55
JR: Go to sleep then. We'll continue talking later. 2:01